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Becky

What a great post, Jen!

Patty

I too, am a sucker for post-apocalyptic stories. And I need plot. Big time!
This is a great post for a writer to refer to as well. Sometimes we get lost in out stories and forget what the reader needs to stay engaged.
Oh, and thanks for the blurb!

Jen Robinson

Thanks, Becky and Patty!

Patty, it certainly crossed my mind that this post might be of relevance to writers, but I'm not arrogant enough to think that my book needs are universal. I think it's more that some writers happen to focus on the same things that I like, and those are writers whose books I tend to enjoy the most.

Go post-apocalyptic stories!! I'm compelled to watch The Stand (the mini-series) at least every couple of years.

Jenny

I love the list! I agree with everything and would add one criteria, though it's not a "p" -- message/theme. I don't like books that are at all preachy, but I do pay close attention to what kids will take away from a book. I suppose that a positive message comes through only when your 6 P's are present and well-represented -- without any one of these criteria a book would seem overly didactic, I think...

Your list is one that I can see lots of classroom teachers appreciating. I know that when I was teaching I often looked for ways to describe good writing and ways to define good books. My kids helped generate a list each year, but I would have have loved to share this list with them -- it's incredibly clear and makes so much sense...

Jen Robinson

Thanks, Jenny! And feel free to share this someday, if you ever go back to teaching.

As far as message or theme goes, that's something that I personally don't look for in books. I think that when an author sets out with a goal of writing a book to teach some sort of message to kids (as many celebrity authors seem to do), and does this under the guise of fiction, the result is often unsatisfying.

First of all, I think that kids can tell when this is done, and it makes them feel manipulated. This can leave them with a bad impression of books, and that's the last thing that we want.

Also, I think that if the message is driving the story, it's hard to make all of the other elements be the best that they can be. So for me "message" is more something that needs to be overcome than something that adds to a story.

Theme is a little different, to me. If a theme grows organically out of a story, that's a nice thing. But I rarely judge a book based on that - it's more something that I might use to mentally categorize the book. But I think, as you mentioned, that the themes should come naturally out of the other six things above, and not be forced. For example, an author could decide: I want loyalty to be a main attribute of this character, who I already know and love. And that's great. But if the author says: "I want to write a book that teaches kids the importance of being loyal", I think that's less likely to work well. But then, I'm not a writer, so I don't really know what authors are setting out to do.

I just know that if I'm reading fiction and I sense the least whiff of a didactic sort of "message" (or "preachy", as you said above), even if it's a message that I happen to agree with, I'm likely to be put off by it. But obviously, that's a personal reaction, not a universal criterion.

Thanks for inspiring me to think more clearly about my feelings on this. As you can see, this is a bit of a hot button for me, but I've never really sat down to figure out why.

Jenny

Interesting... I totally agree with everything that you said...

You've helped me clarify my thinking on this: I suppose it's that message is important and effective only when it is organic and almost unintentional. I agree that when an author sets out to write a book with a specific message the book loses its appeal for me. And, to go a step further, if a good message is organic/unintentional then all readers have the opportunity to walk away with different ideas about the story.

Actually, I guess that's just what it is: I favor books that stick with me in some way. And it is the story, the writing, the characters that are the drivers in this. What I take away is a sense of story and an emotional connection to the book.

Okay. I'm not terrible clear with my thinking on this one. I'll need to spend some more time.

Thank you, Jen, for pushing my thinking and encouraging me to look beyond what first came to mind.

Jen Robinson

Thank you for helping me to clarify my own thinking on this, Jenny. I do think that you're right, and that sometimes a memorable theme will make a book stay with you more. As an example, for me, my favorite thing about The Lord of the Rings trilogy is the loyalty of Sam. That's what resonates, beyond all of the high drama, and tugs at my heart. I do think that things like that matter. We're just in agreement that it's a tricky thing, and has to be done organically, not heavy-handedly.

Sometimes it's a subtle distinction. If Catherine Gilbert Murdoch had written to me (which she never has, I'm just using her as an example) to offer me a copy of Dairy Queen, saying "I wrote this book to show girls that it's ok for them to compete in traditionally male-dominated fields, like football", I would have said "no thanks". Dairy Queen does show that, in a way, but it's an outgrowth of DJ's wholly 3-dimensional personality, and she played football not to prove a point to anyone, but to do something that would make a difference for herself. I love the book because I love DJ's voice, and her quirky family. But if I knew a teen-age girl who was struggling with wanting to do something not traditionally gender acceptable, I'd give her the book in a heartbeat. The difference is that the themes flow as a result of who the characters are, and not the other way around (again, my interpretation - I can't really know what the author intended).

Thanks for an interesting start to the day!

a. fortis

I really enjoyed reading about what draws you into a book--I agree with so much of what you've said here! Especially with premise--I always feel SO guilty when someone tells me I should read something and then it sits on the shelf forever.

Jen Robinson

Thanks, a.f.! I'm glad that it you found it interesting - part of me feared that the whole post was just self-indulgent, and that no one else would have any interest. So your comment is much appreciated.

And I definitely know that guilt of the highly recommended book that sits on the shelf. But I think, especially when we're reading purely for our own pleasure, that we just all have unique tastes. And some books will never grab you, no matter who recommends them. What I remind myself is that the other books, the ones I do pick, are deserving, too.

Thanks!!

Heather Young

This is fascinating--sadly, as an artist, the illustrations--either inside or on the cover is often the first thing that draws me in (I even read web comics based almost solely on their artwork and find poor artwork to be a definite distraction). After that certain themes draw me in (fairy tale/fantasy),a believable personality, and quality story telling keep me reading. I hate preachy writing with obvious or "been done" themes.

Jen Robinson

Thanks for the feedback, Heather. I've always been more of a word person than a picture person, but I'm sure that I underestimate my response to cover graphics. I have to admit that I haven't been pulled in by graphic novels yet (I support them 100%, because I think that they're great for reluctant readers, but I'm not sure if they'll ever become my thing).

But I'm right there with you on preachy writing with obvious themes!

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